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Stag T

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I am sure there will be lots of opinions, is there a diagnostic that is well suited to the z4 range around the £500.00 ish or do you need to spend big.
 

colb

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A simple handheld code reader popular with owners on here is a C110+ or C310+ by Creator samples here
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creator-Reader-Scanner-Diagnostic-Suitable/dp/B07HSYJ8XP

You could go for BMW INPA software on a laptop which is BMW's own software they use at dealers, free to download if you search the forum for a working link. It can be a pain to set up but its usually down to getting the settings on the laptop right.
I also run BMW Scanner 1.4 which is available on ebay for little money, loaded on the laptop it is very easy to use and will read all modules on the car, it also has the ability to do some coding.

Cheapest way to go is an App on your phone like Torque and connected to an ELM327 Emulator either via WI-fi or Bluetooth to your phone. That will do most things diagnostic wise but not airbags, it also lets you view live data from sensors. Handy to carry in the car for use away from home and very cheap. https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/879167221
Just decide if you want Wi-fi or Bluetooth types.

No need to spend £500 you could get yourself all of the options I listed and a second hand laptop for a fraction of that.
 

NabsNabsNabs

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A simple handheld code reader popular with owners on here is a C110+ or C310+ by Creator samples here
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creator-Reader-Scanner-Diagnostic-Suitable/dp/B07HSYJ8XP

You could go for BMW INPA software on a laptop which is BMW's own software they use at dealers, free to download if you search the forum for a working link. It can be a pain to set up but its usually down to getting the settings on the laptop right.
I also run BMW Scanner 1.4 which is available on ebay for little money, loaded on the laptop it is very easy to use and will read all modules on the car, it also has the ability to do some coding.

Cheapest way to go is an App on your phone like Torque and connected to an ELM327 Emulator either via WI-fi or Bluetooth to your phone. That will do most things diagnostic wise but not airbags, it also lets you view live data from sensors. Handy to carry in the car for use away from home and very cheap. https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/879167221
Just decide if you want Wi-fi or Bluetooth types.

No need to spend £500 you could get yourself all of the options I listed and a second hand laptop for a fraction of that.
Colb are the ELM emulators also the same for a Z3? I had a scanner from Euro car parts which seems to work on my VW but not my Z3......I think different cars have different protocols
 

Robert Hill

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There is a new scan tool on the market that the bmw doctor on YouTube dose a review
It's meant to do away with INPA bmw soft ware have a look on YouTube
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colb

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Colb are the ELM emulators also the same for a Z3? I had a scanner from Euro car parts which seems to work on my VW but not my Z3......I think different cars have different protocols
The ELM 327 Emulator will work on the Z3 but with an App like Torque on your phone via bluetooth or wi-fi depending which emulator you choose. If you used BMW INPA then that has to be used with the emulator that comes with the software BCcables on ebay do the package of software and emulator. Same for BMW Scanner 1.4 that comes with its own emulator. For the Z3 you also need the 16pin obd2 to 20pin BMW round cable to plug into the diagnostic socket in the engine bay and connect to your chosen emulator. If you also have a 16pin obd2 socket under the steering wheel that will only read the engine module. The round under bonnet socket will read all modules your car is fitted with.
 

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bombur

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just purchased a random one, coming tomorrow. Will give it a go and feedback
 

colb

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ELM327 emulator ebay or amazon you will need a 20pin to 16 pin cable changer also ebay
 

colb

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Download the Torque app onto phone
 

bombur

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Bought obd II named one, looks the same as EML one and better returns. Have the cable already so will give it a go. Havent checked but hope it will give me live temp
 

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EML327 OBD2 emulator, Bluetooth for Android devices, WIFI for Apple devices.

Does Torque Pro have a data logging function? Data logging gets really handy with some engine problems. It enables you to collect data at around 5 second snapshots and share the CSV file with others who can diagnose the data. I do this all the time over in the BMW E46 forums. There, we use OBD Fusion, see link below. If Torque Pro has data logging, then the OBD Fusion guide will give you some insight into setting it up.

 

bombur

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EML327 OBD2 emulator, Bluetooth for Android devices, WIFI for Apple devices.

Does Torque Pro have a data logging function? Data logging gets really handy with some engine problems. It enables you to collect data at around 5 second snapshots and share the CSV file with others who can diagnose the data. I do this all the time over in the BMW E46 forums. There, we use OBD Fusion, see link below. If Torque Pro has data logging, then the OBD Fusion guide will give you some insight into setting it up.

Yes I believe it does have data logging. Have only just started using it but have seen you can export data to email etc.
 

bombur

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OBD2 bt scanner connecting to torque pro (cost of £2.95 for no ads and extra features). Did have trouble connecting at first switched it all off went inside drunk some wine and started again and it all worked! Connecting nicely to an old kindle fire tablet- had to get apk's for google play and then to get the torque app.
 

colb

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Torque bit tempremental these days with my Wifi 327 emulator dosn't always connect to the car, switched to another App I have on the phone called Dash Command, that connected up alright, similar to Torque with dashboards and build your own option for instruments. it works with Wifi and Bluetooth. Develeoped by Palmer Performance.
 
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bear2020

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I use INPA and NCSExpert & Dummy. Cost me £20 for the cable and have read codes & recoded the Z4 to do numerous things like roof up/down with remote, one touch windows, DRL's, once you get your head around using it, its an absolute doddle
 
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