Dashboard Gremlins

Stevo7682

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I had a bit of a fault with my dash this morning and i was wondering if anyone has seen this before.
On my way to work this morning my dash decided that its wasn't going to work
Illumination fine all warning lights and telltale fine. Milage and trip meter reading and counting up.
But fuel and temp gauges, Speedo and rev counter all not working
On way home tonight everything back to normal.
Any words of wisdom would be most welcome.
 

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This fault is not unheard of Steve, just like yours most just work again and I have never seen or heard of a "fix" for it.
 

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Well maybe need to do a bit of digging into wiring diagrams see if i can come up with anything in case decided to become a more permanent problem.
 

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There was talk of the loom that feeds the cluster rubbing on the framework behind, maybe worth a look?
 

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My Rev counter failed twice a couple of months back. Everything else continued to work normally. I asked on here and told it could be a bit of damp. It's not done it since.
 

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Last week my clock in the Z kept going off :p
It only happened a couple of times ;)
But been fine ever since ;)
 

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I had this happen once, it all came back on its own, I did have the dash pod out and checked the loom for chaffing but found nothing wrong disconnected the loom and refitted it to check the connections were tight and used some foam around the loom where it passes close to a metal dash bracket not had it happen again so far.
 

Stevo7682

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It was pouring down all the night beforehand. I'll keep an eye on see if it's something that I'm going to have to delve deeper into
 

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It was pouring down all the night beforehand. I'll keep an eye on see if it's something that I'm going to have to delve deeper into
I had exactly the same with my Vectra, I was driving along and the speedo and rev counter just stopped working, pulled over, turned off the ignition and started again, all was fine and has been since, just a glitch
 

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I had exactly the same with my Vectra, I was driving along and the speedo and rev counter just stopped working, pulled over, turned off the ignition and started again, all was fine and has been since, just a glitch
I can understand your frustration. Its typical of software driven electronics. Could be one or a combination of several things.
Unless there is a clear wiring problem or common fault I suspect you're on a hiding to nothing to keep looking for the problem.

These kind of things can be massively difficult (and frustrating) problems to isolate and fix - and its not just cars. We normally isolate and fix them by swapping out systems one by one - something can't do in a car easily and definitely not cheaply. Simply disturbing wiring and connections can quite often be sufficient to drive the problem away for a while at least.

Occasionally the software might throw a glitch and not set up correctly on initialisation, or even simply stop working, especially in older systems with old degraded components that aren't quite within spec or with slightly dodgy connections, especially to ground. It might be the software has detected a minor problem and gone into a safe mode, or simply think things have been switched off and only start working again if the expected start-up cycle has been initiated. All software driven systems can do this . Restart (just like PCs! - Turn Off and Turn On - TOTO) and everything gets reset and tries again. More often than not the trigger for the problem has gone away.

Might also be a problem component in the electronics, a capacitor or transistor component. Restart and they get biased slightly differently and kick into life. Also applies to connectors - they corrode and while they look OK, the connection point is degraded until it forms a diode type effect. Move it and it either fails or resets the connection. Only if they fail permanently are you likely to isolate it.

Low voltage low current situations are worst as you don't get any contact wetting on connections. These kind of faults tend to be more persistent though.
Got to remember the electronics are working in a very challenging environment and they age both with use and lack of use too. They go out of spec but don't fail. Might be quite some while before they fail completely, if ever.
Unless it keeps happening, I'd try not to worry about it. You've probably got rid of the problem (at least for a while) by looking for it.
 

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Had something similar on my e36 a few years ago, things in the instrument panel randomly working/not working. Changed the panel in the end, must be something in the cluster not happy with life, but couldn't be ar5ed to go through it looking for dry joints etc.
 

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Only done it once so far . All back to normal but im a believer of if it's happened once it'll happen again.
 

Robz3sport

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This just happened to mine today, left it in for a gearbox and diff oil change, when I went to pick it up it was lashing down, so much so that I now know my hard top is leaking.........!
 

Stevo7682

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Mine has done this 2 times now 2nd time the thing that got it working again was when I locked car down set alarm then unlocked it everything ok can see this becoming a possible problem that i am going to have to resolve if i do find a solution i will post let everyone know.
 

Robz3sport

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Put mine in the garage to dry out, started it today and everything is working again :thumbsup:
 
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