any ideas which one is best, my zed needs a darn good cutting, its full of swirls.
is an angle grinder with a mop head best for this?
is an angle grinder with a mop head best for this?
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You pays your money and takes your choice, littlefeller, I've got a DAS6 pro. Which is quite good but only as good as the pad and cutting compound you use on it. If you have a lot of very deep swirls , then an angle grinder and a wool mop and some course compound will get rid of it. But be careful it can also damage the paintwork if you use it too much.
Mike
Mike
i have never really trusted those youtube videos, always thought they may be a little bias, i did buy some compound though based on one but now need a way of using it, i did consider the middle of the road pollisher on the thought that i could cut them out over a period of say 12 months rather than going for it and cutting too deep.
also i dont want to take out a second mortgage to buy one either
also i dont want to take out a second mortgage to buy one either
If a machine polishing machine is really needed in many cases not there are plenty of good products and hand pads available.
If you choose the machine route try a DAS-6 Dual Action but be careful with pads and compounds.
Start off with the lighter pads and polishes you can always work up to higher grades if necessary.
Cliff.
If you choose the machine route try a DAS-6 Dual Action but be careful with pads and compounds.
Start off with the lighter pads and polishes you can always work up to higher grades if necessary.
Cliff.
Angle grinder with mop head is a definite no no as the speed is way too high, a polisher is designed with far lower speed. It is important to keep it well lubricated with water to prevent heat build up which will burn the paint. In my opinion polishers are what create swirl marks in the first place, it is also easy to go through the paint on sharp edges. My preferred method is to hand polish with good old mutton cloth and Farecla G3 in a back and forth action i.e straight lines. This will leave a slight milky appearance which usually disappears with a good wax polish but preferably go over with a 'Hand Glaze' product such as 3M's. A good polish of your preferred brand will finish it off.
the problem is im a lazy git, i suppose i could do it by hand if i did a panel at a time, the swirls are my own doing, again being lazy. note do not use mr sheen to polish your car, yes it gets it to a high sheen in moments, takes about 20 min to do your whole car and yes it does look real good but it leaves swirls (caused by dirt/grit tiny pieces)
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You only get out what you put in
- see you Sunday (with polished hoops!)
- see you Sunday (with polished hoops!)
didnt need to polish them they were shiney as they were.
Swirls are inevitable to some degree especially with modern water based paints but bad wash method is the reason cars get swirls
Or something most of us are guilty of wiping the car down dusty at car shows mostly.
Cliff.
Or something most of us are guilty of wiping the car down dusty at car shows mostly.
Cliff.
I achieved this in one afternoon by hand Cliff, it was very hard work but well worth it. I only used hand pads and Turtle Wax colour magic. Not a product a pro would use maybe but it works for me.
Tony.
I had a very deep mark on the boot lid of my E85, Monty, with the help of Mark, @666BMG I tried to cut it out using my DAS6 pro a heavy cut pad and some pretty fierce compound, no luck. Went to a body shop next door, they lent me an angle grinder, a wool mop, and some professional fast cut compound. It still took half an hour of polishing to get rid of the mark, it was that deep in the glaze. I would not recommend this method as it is really hard on the nerves, will you cut through the gel coat or not! I was lucky and made a good job.
Mike
Mike
You'll need some black, I had some for my VW Touareg Steve but now it belongs to Shirl's Eos. That means it's still mine by the way.
Tony.
That means it's still mine by the way.Tony.
I have an angle grinder style polisher, very slow revving but I usually only use it to buff dull and faded paint back into the land of the living.Using plenty of water it's a messy job!
Tony.
Tony.
Second the Das6 pro. I used it on my mates sons VW Lupo in yellow which was fading white. I got him to get the local car wash place to give it a wash first before I did a wash and clay bar plus spent the rest of the day giving it the best polish I could do sealed it, waxed and trims etc all got attention. It came out marvellous yellow as from factory for what time I spend on it but instead of him part exchanging it some local paid him more for it than he expected for it.
Just takes a bit of patience but the rewards are worth it, also if your feeling lazy great for buffing of a coat of wax
Just takes a bit of patience but the rewards are worth it, also if your feeling lazy great for buffing of a coat of wax
I do mine by hand too and as @t-tony has already said, finish off with colour magic. My car looks ok from a short distance but it has suffered from over enthusiastic polishing in the past by previous owners. There aren't any swirls on my car, but then again, there's not too much paint either in some places , A bald car for a bald bloke ?
Colour Magic helps the "comb over" effect, so I don't let anyone see me do it
, A bald car for a bald bloke ? Colour Magic helps the "comb over" effect, so I don't let anyone see me do it
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As others have already mentioned you won't go far wrong with a DAS6 but in all fairness most of the DA's are much the same, both in terms of machine weight, speed controls etc.
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@littlefeller You still after a mop? I've got a professional speed adjustable mop (looks like a ruddy big angle grinder) Your welcome to borrow it but you will need to get some good quality pads for it, they're not expensive or difficult to get. Shout if you want a lend and I'll bring it Sunday
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