April VED changes.

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What a load of b*******s! You can't trust a word these muppets say, "do this and we will reward you!"
Oh no forget that last statement, 'do this and we will rip your eyes out!" Tossers!! :mad::mad::mad:
 
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It's a significant increase for many cars and a big chunk of tax on expensive cars. Going to make some just over the boundary quite a bit pricier to buy.
Some argue it's a rebalancing of road tax bringing in many zero/low rated cars into contributing to the upkeep of roads.
I can see a rush to buy 17 Reg cars between early March and Apr and then some lean months.
 

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What a load of b*******s! You can't trust a worse these muppets say, "do this and we will reward you!"
Oh no forget that last statement, 'do this and we will rip your eyes out!" Tossers!! :mad::mad::mad:
It applies only to new registrations.
 

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It's a significant increase for many cars and a big chunk of tax on expensive cars. Going to make some just over the boundary quite a bit pricier to buy.
Some argue it's a rebalancing of road tax bringing in many zero/low rated cars into contributing to the upkeep of roads.
I can see a rush to buy 17 Reg cars between early March and Apr and then some lean months.
I think so too Ian, time will tell mate.

Tony.
 

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I can see a rush to buy 17 Reg cars between early March and Apr and then some lean months.
Yes, dealers are expecting some lean months on many new car sales in the months following the changes.

And the late economical cars that retain the cheap road tax will be quite desirable for some time, will help with their residuals a little.

I never understood why the government made some taxes free anyhow, people were used to having to pay so why free?

It's all down to income is why the new changes, and fleecing the rich a little more. So many new rules/laws all down to government income, smart motorways, earning them a fortune, although I don't condone speeding.
 

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many new rules/laws all down to government income, smart motorways, earning them a fortune, although I don't condone speeding.
I agree entirely on revenues from taxation, I guess there is a degree of fairness about the new rules, although while not cheap, £40k isn't a high figure. It doest also take account of company cars. Who is going to pay the tax on those?

A bit off topic but ....
I can see why many complain about smart motorways being a a way of getting more fines out of people, but, as a traffic engineer for many years (in telecoms not roads but many of the principles are pretty much exactly the same), I can tell you the maths show that controlling the speed of traffic maximises the throughput - more people get there more quickly.

The whole system starts to fail and fail dramatically when people start to exceed the limits or accelerate and brake sharply causing the snake effect - Kinematic Wave model and moving bottlenecks. Those that do that then deny that they are responsible for the resulting chaos. Taking a socially co-operative way really does improve journey times and stops busy from becoming a standstill. But, to get it to work effectively, the only sanction is to fine those that don't want to co-operate.
When needed and when everybody does 50mph everyone wins. Just a minor disturbance though soon inflicts chaos again.

You can see these effects at work on sections where there is no mandatory reduced max speed. Lane three and often two frequently snakes with stop, start, accelerate, slow, stop.
Lane one tends to flow more freely - frequently because HGVs don't really want to be in that cycle. Its far more effective keeping a constant speed and let the "must get there now' drivers in lane three tie themselves in knots. The opposite occurs when a HGV tries overtaking another when there is only 1-2mph difference. Lane three quickly becomes congested.
It really is a question of maths and queueing theory and normal distribution arrival time curves. The boundary between an efficient system and chaos is really quite small.
It seems however that some Smart motorways spend all their life at 50-60mph even when the traffic levels are low for seemingly no good reason. That devalues the system when it really needs to work and frustrates drivers.
When it starts getting busy, stick in lane one and more often than not, get to the front of the queue more quickly. Chill and get there chilled.
 

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Recall seeing a film once on the M25 ,showing the effect on traffic flow with drivers "on the brakes" ,and stopping then acceleration. This resulted in a block of traffic moving along,then stopping.They then showed a film of the traffic proceeding at a slower but continual speed,and the difference/ benefit was clear.
The big trouble was highlighted when a HGV pulled out of lane 1 and proceeded to reduce the progress in lane 2 ,this quickly reduced the speed of travel in lane 3.
 
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