2 hour wait for AA

Dalek

Zorg Guru (III)
British Zeds
Joined
Jul 23, 2017
Points
145
Location
Highworth, Wiltshire
Model of Z
Z3 2.2i Auto
Sat on the side of the road waiting for the AA.
2 hour wait apparently.
Pistachio was behaving really well when suddenly a very strong smell of burning and a LOT of smoke pouring out from under the bonnet. Pulled into a layby a bit quick and shut it all down.
Too scared to look under the bonnet!!
 
Last edited:

mrscalex

Zorg Guru (IV)
Supporter
British Zeds
3rd Party Trader
Joined
Jun 10, 2016
Points
165
Location
Swindon & Swansea
Oh dear. What sort of smoke/smell was it?

Did any reach the cabin?

Very unusual for a 6 cylinder to suffer a major mechanical failure like that.

The first thing that springs to mind is electrical. Have you replaced any fuses lately, especially with cheap parts?
 

Mazza

Zorg Guru (V)
Supporter
British Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Nov 1, 2017
Points
175
Location
Bognor Regis
Model of Z
Z3 1.9 M44 Roadster Z3 2.8 Project
Really sorry to hear you have a problem. Hope it’s nothing too serious. And you get recovered ASAP.

From the title, thought that you had been on the 10% ale again :whistle:
 

Dalek

Zorg Guru (III)
British Zeds
Joined
Jul 23, 2017
Points
145
Location
Highworth, Wiltshire
Model of Z
Z3 2.2i Auto
Really sorry to hear you have a problem. Hope it’s nothing too serious. And you get recovered ASAP.

From the title, thought that you had been on the 10% ale again :whistle:
I could do with a bottle or two after the day I have had!
 

pgunter

Zorg Guru (V)
Supporter
British Zeds
#ZedShed
Joined
Aug 15, 2014
Points
185
Location
Winchester
Model of Z
2.2i Sport Zedshed Special
Thats not great. Did you go through and deep water ? or have the mice been in the works.
 

Dalek

Zorg Guru (III)
British Zeds
Joined
Jul 23, 2017
Points
145
Location
Highworth, Wiltshire
Model of Z
Z3 2.2i Auto
I am now home and Pistachio is in the workshop at the local garage.
The problem was the water pump. It partially seized causing the belt to jam which was where all the smoke came from. The fan is also loose and rattling about a bit.
Hopefully all fixed in the next couple of days.
Thank goodness it was not as serious as I first thought.
I have asked them to ensure the new pump is all metal and not plastic!
 

Stevo7682

Zorg Expert (I)
Supporter
The M44 Massive
Scottish Zeds
Joined
Apr 1, 2016
Points
218
Location
Maybole , South Ayrshire
Model of Z
Z3 Individual Dakar / Orinoco Individual
Sorry to hear about your problems.
Have you opened the bonnet yet take a look.
What did the smoke smell off .
 

Stevo7682

Zorg Expert (I)
Supporter
The M44 Massive
Scottish Zeds
Joined
Apr 1, 2016
Points
218
Location
Maybole , South Ayrshire
Model of Z
Z3 Individual Dakar / Orinoco Individual
Just read your update as well you stopped when you did if it had all came apart damage may have been worse
 

colb

Zorg Guru (V)
British Zeds
Joined
Nov 25, 2012
Points
178
Location
Newport, South Wales,UK
Model of Z
Z3 M43 1.8 (1999) and Z4 E85 2.0i (2007)
Wow! could have been a lot worse. All of a sudden or was their any noise before it let go?
Maybe a timely warning to all of us that water pump replacement would be a wise move given the age of our cars now.
What was the milage on yours?
 

mrscalex

Zorg Guru (IV)
Supporter
British Zeds
3rd Party Trader
Joined
Jun 10, 2016
Points
165
Location
Swindon & Swansea
Well the water pump was my other immediate thought. A lucky escape as they can do a lot of damage sometimes, even on a Z3. On some cars like my old Alhambra it’s terminal as it runs off the timing belt.

This is why water pump replacement should be high up the list of any owner. I suspect if yours was plastic it may even have been original? Have to say anyone with an original water pump on a 20 year old car is sitting on a time bomb. Would suggest replacement every 4 or 5 years maybe.

Don’t forget to get the thermostat changed while you are in there. And use decent makes. Not Eurocarparts chocolate teapots.
 

Dalek

Zorg Guru (III)
British Zeds
Joined
Jul 23, 2017
Points
145
Location
Highworth, Wiltshire
Model of Z
Z3 2.2i Auto
Wow! could have been a lot worse. All of a sudden or was their any noise before it let go?
Maybe a timely warning to all of us that water pump replacement would be a wise move given the age of our cars now.
What was the milage on yours?
No, there was no noise or any other warning! The mileage is just over 100,000.
 

Mazza

Zorg Guru (V)
Supporter
British Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Nov 1, 2017
Points
175
Location
Bognor Regis
Model of Z
Z3 1.9 M44 Roadster Z3 2.8 Project
A real pain, but could have been worse.
Local to me @Ryan atkins , has just had a similar event on his 2.8lt. Fan lost blades, water pump bearings went, radiator damaged....etc. ( Damage happened when his mate was driving it :eek:)
He rebuilt it all using a new electric fan rather than the viscous unit. I saw the car last week and it looks really smart.
 

mrscalex

Zorg Guru (IV)
Supporter
British Zeds
3rd Party Trader
Joined
Jun 10, 2016
Points
165
Location
Swindon & Swansea
My go to water pump & thermostat for my 2.2s from my go to ebay seller. Normally I find that seller cheapest although I haven't checked recently. They're actually in Swindon. Though I think they only do mail order.

upload_2019-10-17_16-1-16.png


Also worth doing a coolant change. And having the belt and pulley/tensioner checked. I don't tend to change them unless they are worn though some people will routinely change them.
 

t-tony

The Legend
Deceased
Supporter
#ZedShed
Joined
Dec 31, 2013
Points
226
Location
Torksey Lock,Lincoln, England
Model of Z
E89 Z4 23i Auto
He did Steve. He limped it home and then across here where we rebuilt the cooling system.

Tony.
 

Dalek

Zorg Guru (III)
British Zeds
Joined
Jul 23, 2017
Points
145
Location
Highworth, Wiltshire
Model of Z
Z3 2.2i Auto
Just to make my day complete....
They have just put Pistachio on the ramp and now tell me that the front coil spring has snapped and damaged the front tyre as well. So on top of water pump etc, I also need front end suspension bits replaced!!
 

Mazza

Zorg Guru (V)
Supporter
British Zeds
The M44 Massive
Joined
Nov 1, 2017
Points
175
Location
Bognor Regis
Model of Z
Z3 1.9 M44 Roadster Z3 2.8 Project
All fixable, but what a pain.... :arghh::arghh::arghh:

Don't know if this will help, but Autodoc are doing 27% discount today.
 

mrscalex

Zorg Guru (IV)
Supporter
British Zeds
3rd Party Trader
Joined
Jun 10, 2016
Points
165
Location
Swindon & Swansea
Just to make my day complete....
They have just put Pistachio on the ramp and now tell me that the front coil spring has snapped and damaged the front tyre as well. So on top of water pump etc, I also need front end suspension bits replaced!!
It may be even slightly worse again. Make sure you take control of the spring fitted. Assuming it's still on factory springs, Sport fitment is -15mm. There are no aftermarket parts. Only BMW. Front springs are about £85 ea from BMW. And preferably replaced in pairs.

Other options are change springs all round and lower by a further 15mm (-30mm fitment). Or have a pair of regular aftermarket springs that will increase the front of the car by 15mm. Don't do that on one side only otherwise you will affect handling - exactly why you shouldn't let the garage pick. They may well tell you they put in your reg and it's the right part but I can tell you know with all certainty it won't be because you have a Sport. Every single parts catalogue I've ever checked does not know about Sport fitment and I've checked dozens.

While the strut(s) are apart they should check the shocks have good rebound and the top mounts are okay. If they are original factory shocks it will be a big surprise if they are in good order.

The good news is all of this is fairly light on labour. It's the parts bill that stacks up.
 
Top